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Saturn Conjunct Venus the No. 1 Block to Love – Pt 3 Deeper Methods of Interpretation

Posted on January 18, 2023 by michaelconneely

This is part 3 of my presentation on the meaning and healing of Saturn conjunct Venus in the birth chart. It dips into the deeper and more powerful methods of interpretation that are available, and as such I can use for you when I give you a Reading.

Watch the video:
https://youtu.be/8tDcZyQCgjI

The first topic to mention is:

The Saturn Venus conjunction in the Houses of your birth chart quick guide:

These are just a quick presentation of ‘one size fits all’ buzz words, but they may be useful to you:

For a fuller meaning of the nature/life area meaning of each House in your birth chart, please see my Starwheel Astrology Interpretation page on this: https://starwheelastrology.com/houses-interpretation/

Saturn Venus in First House:

The first House is psychical body, sense of self, personality.

With Saturn conjunct Venus here, early years unhappy. controls others, Selfish. Might stuff things into the unconscious and the shadow thus have a lack of conscience. Frustrated. Depressed. Isolated.

Without Saturn, Venus in 1^st House will express charm, love and affection.

Saturn Venus in 2^nd House: Second House is family roots, value issues arising therefore, speech issues arising from that. Mouth issues.

With Venus Saturn conjunction: Wound to value from cold unhappy childhood resulting in a wound to being able to keep money or express yourself properly through speech.

Saturn Venus in 3^rd House:

The third house is about siblings, communications and creativity. Short journeys.
Sexuality in terms of the physical sexual act: copulation. Venus here will want positive relationships with siblings, and be quite sexually orientated.

With Venus Saturn conjunction: Blocks and suffering from siblings, blocks to taking creative action. Communications are overly structured. Every action/expression requires extremes of effort.

Saturn Venus in 4^th House:

The 4^th House is about Home, Mother and roots.

When Saturn is with Venus here: Slow and blocked emotional growth, blocked expression. distressed, joyless, fearful family relationships. Karmic blocks from ancestry/family tree.

Saturn Venus in 5^th House:

The 5^th House is about Children, Romance, Creativity. PurvaPunya = Past Life Merit.

When Saturn is with Venus here: Block to love and romance. Delays and distance in romance, restrictions with children issues. lack of fun.

Saturn Venus in 6^th House:

The 6^th House is about Health, employment, service, enemies, healing.

6^th House can support health if it’s not afflicted. Venus here is good for employment. The person can find their partner in their place of employment.

When Saturn is with Venus here: Inflexible, stuck, gets into excessive microscopic detail, problems with employees, poor self-promotion. Enemies.

Note: Venus is weak in Virgo and 6^th House (Maraka karaka Sthana) = a challenging place for Venus.

But 6^th house is an Upachaya House, allowing you to overcome these problems over time.

Saturn Venus in 7^th House:

The 7^th House is the significator of a person who puts a special emphasis on being in love, passion and romance. They can find relationship, but also the special emphasis can prevent relationship because they put an extra dose of energy on the idea of passion.

But Saturn in 7^th House is terrible for marriage until we heal it. It is good for commitment, but this person can commit for years to the wrong person – and they will often attract the wrong person in the first place. Controlled partnerships. Unloving sex.

Saturn Venus in 8^th House:

The 8^th House is about money through partnership, death and rebirth, transformation. Venus is transformed in the 8^th house. Metamorphosis through sexuality. But also, gut-wrenching transformation. Relationships become more complicated. The person has to process a lot psychologically in order to make a relationship work. But the 8^th House can allow the person to have a breakthrough in relationship. They will go through relationship problems, but they can work them out.

They love to have a powerful experience in relationship. They want intensity of experience.

Here Venus becomes the vehicle for a process of transformation.

Saturn conjunct Venus here creates the shy frustrated loner, but with great potential for spiritual, occult and healer growth.

Saturn Venus in 9^th House:

The 9^th House is about spiritual path, higher education, teachers and father.

Venus supports and promotes all of those things. Maybe the spouse is found at University or a spiritual group, or while travelling.

Saturn conjunct Venus here creates restriction, delays, bad effect from authoritarian figures in the life.

Saturn Venus in 10^th House:

The 10^th House is about career related to hard work.

But with Saturn conjunct Venus here, the career nature destroys chance of creativity or art. Job in an area that is servile and labouring, misfit, drops out of career or education. doesn’t build up career through lack of self-value.

Saturn Venus in 11^th House:

The 11^th House is the House of structured gains, also friends and community.

But with Saturn conjunct Venus here there will be trouble with children issues (Saturn is opposition 5^th House of children).

Saturn Venus in 12^th House:

The 12^th House is where we go beyond our usual world. This can be into foreign parts, into institutions, spending money or above all Moksha or spiritual realisation. Someone with Saturn in 12^th House will work in institutions or abroad.

With Saturn conjunct Venus here, they could experience a loss of liberty of expression. They could be ineffectual.

A second key interpretation topic to very briefly mention is:

Venus in Yogas in Vedic Astrology:

When the planet Venus is placed in Taurus, Libra, or Pisces and in one of the angular (Kendra) houses: 1st, 4th, 7th or 10th house from ascendant then Malavya Yoga is formed.

Venus is the lord of Taurus and Libra zodiac signs and is exalted in the Pisces zodiac sign. This yoga brings: good looking, artistic, intelligent, famous, but the strength of yoga will depend upon the strength of Venus and the influences of other planets over Venus. The yoga has a very strong impact on the life.

Malavya Yoga can show huge talent coming from the past, like the little child who is a famous accomplished singer or musician.

But note that the presence of Saturn affecting this yoga will greatly reduce the Venusian manifestation.

A third key interpretation topic to very briefly mention is:

Venus in Rashi Avasthas in Vedic Astrology:

Rashi Avasthas is a wonderful Vedic system of deciphering fro our birth chart how our planets will treat each other. In order to share what the Saturn – Vensu conjunction can mean, I briefly share some buzz words so we can better understand how Saturn and Venus will treat each other.

Firstly chart analysis can reveal that we embody a situation in this incarnation where Saturn is Shaming Venus. Saturn shaming Venus makes us choose a path that is less fulfilling and the reason for this is because at root we simply don’t feel we are DESERVING of fulfillment. Saturn – Venus creates a lack of self-respect. It fills us with shame. We do not feel worthy – and so lack of fulfillment will be bitterly and impotently felt.

Second let’s look at the situation where the Saturn Venus conjunction creates a situation of Saturn Starving Venus. Saturn causes Venus to lack the self-worth necessary to maintain a fair relationship. We will either demand more than is deserved within relationship, OR we may feel so unworthy that we keep crawling to our loved one and so may lose our own life and pay too high a price within the relationship.

Rashi Avasthas can describe two possible relationship situations for how Saturn and Venus will work together in your life (until you bring spiritual healing to the horrible situation).

Either Saturn can boost Venus and Venus can boost Saturn, in which case the relationship is a matter of appreciating that the simple things in life are the bedrock and core that makes for loving satisfying caring relationship.

But the second possibility is that Venus can work to boost and boost and boost Saturn – but Venus gets nothing in return. Saturn just takes and takes and takes from Venus – and in the wort case scenario, you can even feel like committing suicide.

A fourth key interpretation topic to very briefly mention is:

Dashas in Vedic Astrology:

The Dashas are the wonderful Predictive periods of Vedic Astrology. They unfold from birth based on the position of the Moon at the moment of birth. Each Dasha has sub-period and also sub-sub-periods.

A Venus Dasha will highlight the role of the planet Venus in the person’s life for the duration of his or her Venus dasha.

If Saturn is conjunct Venus in the person’s natal chart, this will massively make more difficult the expression of Venus – but ideally this experience could make the person more open to spiritual growth about Venus issues of love (and money, art, etc).

A fifth key interpretation topic to very briefly mention is:

Venus in the Nakshatras

The Nakshatras are a supreme expression of our emotionally based consciousness. They offer multifaceted wonders of interpretation to us for our nature and our life path, all with the purpose of raising our spiritual awareness for the maximation of the nakshatras spiritual qualities and limiting its negative expressions in our consciousness and in our behaviours and love scripts.

Venus rules three Nakshatras
Bharani (in Aries/Taurus) whose Deva ruler is Yama the God of Death. Symbol is the vagina/womb and is therefore also about birth. It has a female sexual energy quality.
PurvaPhalguni (in Leo) whose symbol is the conjugal bed, and whose energy is about creativity. Fertility.

PurvaAshadha (in Sagittarius), ruler Apas the God of water. Venus is karaka for water.

Nakshatra Padas:

Each Nakshatra is divided for analysis purposes into four padas.Watch out especially if Venus is in your chart in a Virgo pada in one of the Nakshatras.

This will harm Venus expression greatly, because Virgo is the Debilitation sign for Venus.

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Saturn Conjunct Venus the No. 1 Block to Love – Pt 2 Spiritual Growth opportunity:

Posted on January 18, 2023 by michaelconneely

This is part 2 of my presentation on the meaning and healing of Saturn conjunct Venus in the birth chart.

Watch the video:
https://youtu.be/bTcmi68_zTE

I want to start this post about how Saturn conjunct Venus is a block to love by reviewing how, like each of the planetary energies, Saturn and Venus are divine energies.

The Planets and their energies are Faces of the Divine, with whom each of us has astrologically definable karmic scripts to grow and heal and work with.

Then I will go on to look in detail at what the Saturn – Venus conjunction does to us, and how we can heal that spiritually.

Saturn:

Let’s look first at Saturn. Basically, Saturn is about our Karmas in this life. Saturn’s nature is fated. We are each born with a fate and destiny and our Saturn scripts are particularly central to that. It is Saturn’s nature that learning his lessons is hard and slow – but if we can learn our karmic lesson, then we experience his ultimate gift: golden reaping (Saturn is at root an agricultural deity, as a Face of the Divine).

But it is crucial to be aware that essentially, with our blocks to perception and our fated Saturn scripts in this life, we experience blocks and sadness and fear and lack of confidence and stuckness from Saturn’s lessons.

And so we experience him as Suffering, whereas this is but due to our faulty perception of our life, our faulty inadequately spiritual state of consciousness – and our resistance to spiritual growth in perception and the bringing in of needed change.

But the vast destiny and karmic call of these Saturn sadnesses, is for each of us to develop – with that utmost key spiritual value of compassion – deeper spiritual insight and wisdom, deeper understanding, maturity and achievement. Achievement through consistent effort and concentration. We can achieve protection and harvest.

In Vedic Astrology, each planet is understood to have a Divine Energy, to be a face of the Divine: a God.

The name for Saturn as a ‘Face of the Divine’ is Shani.

If we can handle Saturn energies in the right way, and by seeing their nature truly, we achieve protection and harvest.

When Saturn is conjunct Venus in our birth chart, this does indeed set us a huge challenge for learning the needed spiritual lesson and developing to the needed spiritual attitude and perception, doing this by working on our own and by agreed pathway forward in relationship.

See below where I talk about a couple agreeing to become almost like two snakes next to each other, who shed negative dark skin after negative dark skin, in loving sharing and acknowledgement, to rid ourselves of our negative scripts and thus arise together at the end of the shedding process ultimately as a power couple.

Venus:

Now let’s look at Venus.

Basically, Venus as a Face of the Divine is beautiful and lovely, joyful and affectionate. The Venus energy is about sex and love, pleasure and beauty, dance and art and gentleness, wealth and adornment, comfort and relaxation. Venus is charisma and attraction and enthusiasm, vitality and bliss. Venus is art, healing and compassion – and creating a safe space for others. As a Face of the Divine, in Vedic Astrology, the Divine essence of Venus is the god Sukra.

Sukra’s name in Sanskrit means “brilliant light” and “heat” and is semen the male reproductive fluid. Sukra, the Divine Face of Venus, is seen as the teacher of the demons. This is because divine Venus is True Love and has the qualities that can heal, not by force but through charm and grace, spiritual quality and strength of will and attraction and care and respect – and abiding in the state of mind that makes these behaviours ever more likely on our part.

I personally find the Divine Sukra energy feels quite similar to the energy of Compassion (though in many ways it’s different as well, of course). I so love connecting with Avalokiteshvara the Tibetan Buddhist God of Universal Compassion. In my 5-year University-based File Study – an Ethnography of Spiritual Forms new to the Modern West, I loved to work with Avalokiteshvara, first making Vision Contact with him in his Pure Land, and then through Highest Yoga Tantra, going on to Arise as Avalokiteshvara and head out into the streets, not as Michael Conneely, but as Avalokiteshvara, viewing all people and the buildings not with the eyes of Michael Conneely but with the eyes of Avalokiteshvara.

By the way, Avalokiteshvara’s name in Tibetan is Chenrezig. His wonderful female equivalents are Green Tara and Quan Yin Bodhisattva andGoddess of Compassion.

When we can increasingly live in states of Compassion and Caring Love, increasingly we are changing, we are living more and more in a bliss produced by the change in our own awareness or the change coming from agreeing to work better and better in a shared way as a couple.

It feels so much more like a radiant state of being when we can enter it. It divinely transfigures the body-mind and become a power that enables us to interpret things differently – including the meaning and manifestation of our super-challenging Saturn – Venus conjunction. It is free energy. No bounds. No limits.

But, to return to the detail of Venus in our birth chart, as is obvious, we humans can, of course, express the Venus quality in a negative or dark way. This is such as using sexuality or beauty to hypnotize, enchant and deceive and allure and entrap and wallow negatively in sensual pleasures that can dissipate, drain, exhaust us – or make us narcissistic.

We humans need to learn, as our life progresses, about the truth and the dangers of desire and attachment. And by making this spiritual growth, Venus becomes what he is at his highest in Vedic Astrology: The Preceptor of Demons.

Venus as Preceptor of Demons is embodied in the Vedic teaching that Sukra gained a Mantra from Shiva which had the power to restore the dead to life. The highest nature of Vensu is life-giving, life-restoring, so we all need to spiritually work on this.

As with all human experiences, each quality has its negative side, and these we are here to get better spiritual awareness of, and to grow spiritually. That is the central purpose of our human life.

The negative sides of the Venus energy are seeking to luxuriate in the adulation of others, to be vain, fickle, superficial and affected, to simply demand of others that they please us. For Venus pleasures can dissipate us, drain us and exhaust us. We need to learn that Venus self-indulgence can destroy us. Venus the Seducer or Seductress steals our power and achievement and even the showing of real love. Love and Truth are the key qualities for working with Venus.

It is important to note that association with Saturn, Mars, Rahu or Ketu will in each case be challenging for Venus.

So, what we need to do, as an individual, and as a shared task in a relationship, is to Let Go of the pride and move into the heart. We need to develop a state of Compassion and Love, working as an individual or working as an agreed shared strategy in Relationship. We need to Surrender to the Higher face of Venus. This is done as a state of being – without the mind – this state of being brings lustre that mental strategy and ambition cannot.

Venus at its highest is devotion rather than just desire. Maybe Venus is easier in some ways to work with than Jupiter (the other Guru planet deity).

Venus can even be the guru for each of our planet energies – even for Ketu because Ketu is a demon – and Venus in his highest state is the guru of all demons.

But of course we are focusing on Saturn conjunct Venus, just at the moment. Saturn wants us to be physical and do our duties in the hands-on way, in the physicality of this world.

Everything to do with Saturn means we have to work at it.

And to do this we need the devotion to surrender without limitation.

Both Saturn and Venus want us to surrender. And this can be in a relationship. And there must be boundaries and free-exchange, and not one person wielding their worldly desires over the other, even if they do have good points about the work the other person needs to undertake.

Beauty dries up if we don’t have the devotion of Venus.

Love and bliss divinely transfigure the body and mind and becomes a great power. It is energy beyond limit. It allows you to interpret everything differently. It purifies the body and mind. It is free energy coming at you from all directions. When we love, it does purify!